Nick: Idril Celebrindal
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 11:28 AM PST
Subject: Through Rohan over fen and fold
Message:
In Widfara's memory: the song of the death of Boromir.
Through Rohan over fen and field where the long grass grows
The West Wind comes walking, and about the walls it goes.
'What news from the West, O wandering wind, do you bring to me tonight?
Have you seen Boromir the Tall by moon or by starlight?'
'I saw him ride over seven streams, over waters wide and grey;
I saw him walk in empty lands, until he passed away
Into the shadows of the North. I saw him then no more.
The North Wind may have heard the horn of the son of Denethor.'
'O Boromir! From the high walls westward I looked afar,
But you came not from the empty lands where no men are.'
Then Legolas sang:
From the mouths of the Sea the South Wind flies, from the sandhills and the stones;
The wailing of the gulls it bears, and at the gate it moans.
'What news from the South, O sighing wind, do you bring to me at eve?
Where now is Boromir the Fair? He tarries and I grieve.'
'Ask not of me where he doth dwell -- so many bones there lie
On the white shores and the dark shores under the stormy sky;
So many have passed down Anduin to find the flowing Sea.
Ask of the North Wind news of them the North Wind sends to me!'
'O Boromir! Beyond the gate the seaward road runs south,
But you came not with the ailing gulls from the grey sea's mouth.'
Then Aragorn sang again:
From the Gate of Kings the North Wind rides, and past the roaring falls;
And clear and cold about the tower its loud horn calls.
'What news from the North, O mighty wind, do you bring to me today?
What news of Boromir the Bold? For he is long away.'
'Beneath Amon Hen I heard his cry. There many foes he fought.
His cloven shield, his broken sword, they do the water brought.
His head so proud, his face so fair, his limbs they laid to rest;
And Rauros, golden Rauros-falls, bore him upon its breast.'
'O Boromir! The Tower of Guard shall ever northward gaze
To Rauros, golden Rauros-falls, until the end of days.'
Nick: Celandine Brandybuck
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 11:37 AM PST
In Reply To: Through Rohan over fen and fold
Subject: Thanks, Idril
Message:
That's most appropriate, I think.
Nick: Eledhwen
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 11:39 AM PST
In Reply To: Thanks, Idril
Message:
It is, indeed.
Nick: Nimfalma Took
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 11:31 AM PST
Subject: My tribute
Message:
I got home from school today and logged onto aol and TORN to find that a beloved member had passed. I feel a sense of numb shock- pain for the loss her family feels, pain for the loss to our community, and pain for the loss she had to be feeling. Without further ado, I'd like to pay tribute with a passage that may be fitting. Gandalf speaks these words (and we all know how Gandalf felt about that belly-button ring ;). Gandalf says this to the hobbits, and perhaps Wid would say something similar to us:
"Well, here at last, dear friends, on the shores of the sea comes the end of our fellowship in Middle-earth. Go in peace! I will not say: do not weep; for not all tears are an evil." (ROTK)
Wid, we love you. Our thoughts and prayers are with this community and your family.
Nick: Galadlinderiel
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 11:43 AM PST
In Reply To: My tribute
Message:
Very fitting. Amen to that.
Nick: Nimfalma Took
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 11:53 AM PST
In Reply To: My tribute
Subject: I'd also like to add
Message:
these song lyrics. I heard them at a wedding I was at this weekend, and while they were appropriate for that, they are also very appropriate and timely for this time we are all going through.
"And the seasons they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on a carousel of time
We can't return, we can only look
Behind from where we came
And go round and round and round on a circle game."
~from "The Circle Game" by Joni Mitchell
Nick: Taryávëwen
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 12:10 PM PST
Subject: This is so touching
Message:
I cannot believe this outpouring of grief and and tributes. I see TORn in a different light now. It really is just like a family. I really can't say anything to eloquent now, I'm kind of in shock. Goodbye, Widfara.
"I will not say do not weep, for not all tears are evil."
TORn is amazing.
Nick: Ataahua
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 12:16 PM PST
In Reply To: This is so touching
Subject: You're right that TORN is a family.
Message:
We have come to know each other over the last three years and delight in each others' company.
I think it was Patty who once said that when it comes to virtual friendships, only the meeting place is virtual - the friendships themselves are real.
Nick: Robin Smallburrow
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 2:53 PM PST
In Reply To: You're right that TORN is a family.
Subject: Don't get carried away -
Message:
if any of you were my family, I would've thrown you out the door months ago for raiding my refrigerator and clogging up my bathroom ! ; )
But I know how you feel - I'm rather fond of the people on this board.
Nick: DaughterofRohan
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 12:13 PM PST
Subject: I didn't know Widfara but...
Message:
I only joined TORN yesterday so I didn't know Widfara, but reading this messageboard today has been very very moving. And I've just found this poem and I thought it might help. I think it was actually written for 9/11 but I think it suits the mood here today.
IF I KNEW
If I knew it would be the last time
That I'd see you fall asleep,
I would tuck you in more tightly
and pray the Lord, your soul to keep.
If I knew it would be the last time
that I see you walk out the door,
I would give you a hug and kiss
and call you back for one more.
If I knew it would be the last time
I'd hear your voice lifted up in praise,
I would videotape each action and word,
so I could play them back day after day.
If I knew it would be the last time,
I could spare an extra minute
to stop and say "I love you,"
instead of assuming you would KNOW I do.
If I knew it would be the last time
I would be there to share your day,
well I'm sure you'll have so many more,
so I can let just this one slip away.
For surely there's always tomorrow
to make up for an oversight,
and we always get a second chance
to make everything just right.
There will always be another day
to say "I love you," and certainly there's
another chance to say our "Anything I can do?"
But just in case I might be wrong,
and today is all I get,
I'd like to say how much I love you
and I hope we never forget.
Tomorrow is not promised to anyone,
young or old alike,
And today may be the last chance
you get to hold your loved one tight.
So if you're waiting for tomorrow,
why not do it today?
For if tomorrow never comes,
you'll surely regret the day,
That you didn't take that extra time
for a smile, a hug, or a kiss
and you were too busy to grant someone,
what turned out to be their one last wish.
So hold your loved ones close today,
and whisper in their ear,
Tell them how much you love them
and that you'll always hold them dear
Take time to say "I'm sorry,"
"Please forgive me, "Thank you," or "It's okay."
And if tomorrow never comes,
you'll have no regrets about today.
Nick: Sangoff
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 12:16 PM PST
In Reply To: I didn't know Widfara but...
Message:
Welcome to the boards and thank you for the lovely peom. =0)
Nick: maegwen
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 12:16 PM PST
In Reply To: I didn't know Widfara but...
Message:
thank you, DoR... that's lovely
Nick: Tauriel
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 12:20 PM PST
In Reply To: I didn't know Widfara but...
Subject: That is very nice of you
Message:
What a thoughtful newbie you are ;-)
It is a very beautiful poem, as are all the others posted today.
Welcome to TORn, DaughterofRohan! I'm sure today has shown you just what a great community you have now entered, even though the occasion is one we wish we'd been without. I'll look forward to see more of your posts in the future - you seem to be someone who'll fit in wonderfully here!
Nick: Greenwood Hobbit
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 12:38 PM PST
In Reply To: I didn't know Widfara but...
Subject: Thank you for sharing that. I think we all
Message:
view the world a little differently since 9/11. To coin a phrase, 'All we have to do is decide what to do with the time that is given to us'; we all have different ways of living up to that. The best we can hope for is to try and leave the world better, in some small way, than we found it.
Nick: Roheryn
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 12:45 PM PST
In Reply To: I didn't know Widfara but...
Subject: Thanks and welcome, DoR.
Message:
Though you've come at a time of tremendous sorrow, it lets you see the sense of community we share here. Glad to have you be a part of it, and thanks for offering that very touching poem. We should all remember that tomorrow is not a given, and spend an extra minute telling friends and loved ones "I care."
Nick: Nimfalma Took
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 12:52 PM PST
In Reply To: I didn't know Widfara but...
Message:
Thank you; beautiful words
Nick: Eledhwen
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 1:03 PM PST
In Reply To: I didn't know Widfara but...
Message:
Thank you, and welcome to TORN.
Nick: Stapper
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 2:49 PM PST
In Reply To: I didn't know Widfara but...
Message:
Thanks for the beautiful poem. Sorry the 2nd day of you being here has to be like this.
Nick: Flower of Telperion
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 12:40 PM PST
Subject: My thoughts
Message:
I thought I would just share some thoughts with everyone.
It has been a very sad day for us all and instead of becoming too depressed, I think we should all remember to laugh and smile and allow ourselves to feel the joy of being alive. Our friend is gone, but I know that wherever she is she is happy and would not want us to mourn too much. I think we should remember that..
"The shadow is only a small and passing thing. There is light and high beauty forever beyond its reach." -jrrt-
And I believe that our dear Widfara is basking in it.
u reniathach i amar galen No more will you wander the green fields of this earth
i reniad lin ne mor nuithannen Your journey has ended in darkness
Caled veleg, ethuiannen A great light has gone out
Manan elye etevanne What drove you to leave
Norie i melanelye That which you loved?
Nick: Lounge_Hobbit
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 12:47 PM PST
In Reply To: My thoughts
Subject: very true
Message:
maybe should make a list of the things that make life worth living? for me, joy of life = Godiva chocolates.
Nick: Greenwood Hobbit
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 12:49 PM PST
In Reply To: My thoughts
Subject: We are walking in the bitter rain just now...
Message:
but the clouds will pass; the rainbow and the sun will return, in due time. The land will be richer for the rain; even the flood feeds it, though it feels fierce.
Nick: nixie
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 12:53 PM PST
In Reply To: My thoughts
Subject: um, hi
Message:
It looks like I've chosen a bad day to return to the TORn boards after s long. I haven't been visiting the boards for several months due to school work but I can't believe the news about Widfara. I never knew Widfara well, but I always enjoyed reading her messages and i can't quite believe the news. Anyway I'm really really sorry and I hope everyone who knew her well will be okay.
Nick: Silverlode
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 1:02 PM PST
In Reply To: um, hi
Subject: Hi nixie
Message:
Thanks for your message and welcome back.
It's a sad day, but one which reminds us just how special this place is, and the unique friendships which grow between TORNsibs.
Silverlode
Nick: Mirkwood Maiden
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 12:52 PM PST
Subject: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Message:
Forgive me, gentle souls, but I need to express my sorrow. I had not been to TORn in days... only an email from a TORNSib alerted me to this tragedy.
Robin was one of my very dearest cyber-friends. We emailed and chatted often, although less often in recent weeks. On Sunday, she had sent me the most beautiful email, expressing her appreciation for our friendship. I was touched beyond words and emailed her to tell her so. She probably never read my response.
Robin and I were drawn together by the TORn Album. Most of you don't know it, but it was Widfara who proofread every single page, and helped me to tweak the Album to be the best it could be. She didn't want anyone to know... and she forbade me from thanking her publicly on TORn. Her help and her advice were invaluable to me. And for that, I am forever grateful.
Although I never met her, Robin was incredibly special to me. Our friendship was strong and it was filled with love and support. She guided me gently through my own dark times, sharing the wisdom she had earned through her own experiences. I only wish that somehow, I could have returned the favour, and helped her with her own dark times.
We all know how generous Robin was in both time and talent. She was generous in kindness and patience. And she was generous in the material sense as well. She sent me a care-package, all thoughtfully laid out. She picked out the most beautiful dress for Mirkwood Toddler, and it took my breath away. I had my child's portrait taken when she was wearing that dress, and I sent Robin a picture. That picture also hangs on my wall, and every time I see it... I think of Robin.
And now, I will forever think of Robin when my daughter wears that dress. And it will remind me forever of a friendship cherished... and a friendship so tragically lost.
Farewell Robin, I will miss you forever. Go with the Angels, as you are so surely one of them.
I love you.
Anne-Marie / MM
Nick: Nimfalma Took
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 12:55 PM PST
In Reply To: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Subject: Thank you
Message:
Thank you for your post. I only knew Widfara from mostly the SAST quizzes, so reading the tributes from those closest to her have really touched me. My prayers are with you, MM, and all those grieving.
Nick: TaurielNick: Corsair of Umbar
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 1:03 PM PST
In Reply To: Thank you
Subject: Yes, me too
Message:
I know how sad I am, only knowing Wídfara from these boards. Those of you who knew her better than that must be feeling truly horrible, and you will definitely be in my prayers along with her family and other friends.
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 1:16 PM PST
In Reply To: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Message:
Those are beautiful words, Mirkwood
Nick: Roheryn
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 1:17 PM PST
In Reply To: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Subject: {{{Mirkwood Maiden}}}
Message:
MM, the tears started streaming down my face all over again when I read your very touching post. What a beautiful, kind, generous person she was. My heart aches, and I didn't know her nearly as well as others. I treasure the budding friendship I did have with her, and will hold close the memories. Like I said earlier, part of me has died too.
Thanks for sharing, MM, and I'm glad you have the memories, though they be far too brief. {{{hugs}}}
Nick: Patty
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 1:18 PM PST
In Reply To: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Subject: Mirkwood Maiden, I know you are...
Message:
suffering greatly at this time. My prayers for comfort go out to you. Just remember, keep remembering, all the good things you just told us about your friend.
Nick: Greenwood Hobbit
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 1:20 PM PST
In Reply To: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Subject: This makes the TORn family album even more special -
Message:
sounds like you have many memories to treasure. What a shock for you though, finding out like that. It was a real jolt for me, logging on this evening. The reaction on the boards has been amazing, it will take a while to sink in, I guess. Bless you.
Nick: maegwen
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 1:25 PM PST
In Reply To: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Message:
*hugs Mirkwood Maiden"
Nick: Annael
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 1:28 PM PST
In Reply To: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Subject: I was thinking of you today, MM
Message:
{{{{hugs}}}}
I could tell from your exchanges here that you and Widfara were friends. Thanks for sharing more about her.
Nick: Eledhwen
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 1:34 PM PST
In Reply To: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Message:
(((Mirkwood Maiden)))
Nick: grammaboodawg
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 1:35 PM PST
In Reply To: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Subject: I'm so grateful for what you've
Message:
given us with the album... and also to Widfara. Thank you for sharing that story. I think your album has been one of the key things that has sealed this place as a "true family" of friends all drawn together because of a story about love, appreciation, suffering, faithfulness, and supporting the ones you love no matter what. I take great comfort knowing that Robin found this story, this board and wonderful people like you to give her happiness. Stay steady, my dear. Hold onto her joy... you were a part of that. You know that's what she'd want.
Nick: Mirkwood Maiden
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 2:04 PM PST
In Reply To: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Subject: Thank you all ... and as a further gesture of our love for Widfara...
Message:
I have moved Widfara's picture in the TORn Album onto the Grey Havens page. The idea was suggested to me by Pennadariel.
And thanks to each and every one of you for your compassion and your comforting words. It truly exemplifies what an amzing sanctuary we have in TORn.
Blessed be,
AM /MM
Nick: Earendil The MarinerNick: Thevina Finduilas
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 2:11 PM PST
In Reply To: Thank you all ... and as a further gesture of our love for Widfara...
Message:
Hmmm... kind of beat you to it... see my post
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 2:25 PM PST
In Reply To: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Subject: The Grey Havens
Message:
What a beautiful gesture. I am just so upset that I didn't get to meet her in person, as I was so looking forward to that in January. She was planning to come to Nashville and meet me and see TTT once some of the hubub had died down, and I am so upset that she won't be coming.
Your gesture is as eloquent as any we could express- our thanks.
Nick: Scout B
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 2:35 PM PST
In Reply To: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Subject: Hugs, MM
Message:
This is such a true loss. Hang in there. I'm just so glad I got to know her at all.
Nick: Mrs. Boromir
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 2:49 PM PST
In Reply To: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Subject: Mirkwood...
Message:
I know you were very special to Wid and she said so many times--about many of us here. I received a similar email from her yesterday morning, shortly before it happened. It made me wonder what was up, but I realized after hearing the news, it was meant as a goodbye. I'm sure she saw your response to her letter and was touched by it, and your thoughts here are a wonderful tribute to her memory. It's a comfort to know all of us are all the more blessed and enriched by having known her.
Peace.
Nick: Eruviell
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 3:00 PM PST
In Reply To: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Message:
I weep with you
Nick: Nessimë
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 3:10 PM PST
In Reply To: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Message:
My thoughts are with you MM...
"I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly for you tread on my dreams."
- Yeats
Nick: Telkemeniel
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 3:10 PM PST
In Reply To: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Subject: I'm so very sorry...
Message:
Big hugs.
Nick: Gaelsong
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 3:22 PM PST
In Reply To: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Subject: At least you got to know her
Message:
Many of us didn't. Try not to feel so bad. She's in Middle Earth now, and that is an encouraging thought.
Nick: FattyLumpkin79
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 3:52 PM PST
In Reply To: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Subject: Thank you, Mirkwood Maiden
Message:
Thank you for sharing with us. Wonderful memories of Widfara will live on. She will be greatly missed.
Nick: Light of Eärendil
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 4:40 PM PST
In Reply To: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Subject: Thank you MM....
Message:
it helped to go to the Grey Havens and look at Widfara's picture again. I too will miss her. I enjoyed corresponding with her on the message boards.
You are in my thoughts and prayers at this difficult time. Thank you for all that you do for your TORNsibs. It is much appreciated.
Nick: WrightWords
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 5:39 PM PST
In Reply To: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Subject: Oh my ((MM))) Perhaps our photos
Message:
sent to the Family Album could be a tribute from those of us who haven't done it yet.
I'll stop waiting to lose weight, to put on make up, get the perfect shot, be the perfect me. I'll just send a picture of me as I am: A member of the TORn family.
Nick: Scout BNick: Ginger
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 5:48 PM PST
In Reply To: Oh my ((MM))) Perhaps our photos
Subject: Yes, WW!
Message:
I'm so glad we have the album with Widfara in it...there are far too many TORnsibs who aren't in it yet.
Just do it. :)
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 6:00 PM PST
In Reply To: My heart is truly broken, and I don't think I shall ever be the same.
Message:
((MM)) Thank you so much for sharing that
Nick: Eledhwen
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 1:19 PM PST
Subject: I'm not going to add another poem
Message:
to the other thoughtful, beautiful tributes that everyone has posted, but I do want to add this.
Over the last month or so, Wídfara emailed me feedback on some of my fics - useful, helpful comments, highlighting which bits she thought worked and why, picking out typos and so on I'd missed. I was enormously flattered by the time she spent doing this, and could really only thank her in hollow words. In her feedback for the final chapter of 'Thorongil' which I uploaded last week, she ended her message with "It's been fun, E." It was fun. She was fun. And that's how I'm going to remember her - I didn't know her very well, and I didn't know her for very long, but I'll remember her, because it was fun.
In due course, I intend to write a new fic, and it will be dedicated to the friend we've lost. Until then, Namarie, Wídfara, and I hope you rest in peace, free of your troubles.
Nick: grammaboodawg
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 1:38 PM PST
In Reply To: I'm not going to add another poem
Subject: So much generosity
Message:
and love Widfara gave to so many. I'm really glad you told us about this. I look forward to your post in her honor. I'm so sorry this has happened.
Nick: Celede
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 1:59 PM PST
In Reply To: I'm not going to add another poem
Subject: I like your message, Eledwhen...
Message:
I'm sure Widfara liked you too. Its so sad.
Nick: Celandine Brandybuck
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 3:28 PM PST
In Reply To: I'm not going to add another poem
Subject: Indeed.
Message:
She'd been doing similar commentary and feedback for me for quite awhile, and I appreciated it enormously. It's going to be very hard to keep writing on those stories in progress, because Wídfara won't be there to read and enjoy them.
Nick: Scout B
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 4:13 PM PST
In Reply To: I'm not going to add another poem
Subject: Fun, indeed
Message:
It gives me hope that we on TORn will move on in the best way we can in Wid's memory: with humor.
She was fun, Eledhwen...I feel lucky that I knew her the little I did also.
Good post.
Nick: Ginger
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 6:03 PM PST
In Reply To: I'm not going to add another poem
Subject: Thanks Eledhwen
Message:
In one of her emails last week she told me how she enjoyed doing that.
Nick: Overlithe28
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 1:20 PM PST
Subject: To all of you in Your loss
Message:
I did not know Widfara but that does not stop me from feeling the anguish and pain that this tagedy had brought to all of you. It is with hope that her dear soul has found peace from this life that I post this...and also in hope that you all will find healing and peace in your own ways...God Bless and be at peace. Also here is an excert from a work of mine a poem for those whom we love who have gone on ahead....
Cradled in the arms of the Father She has crossed over where
We cannot yet follow.
Remembered, loved and longed for,
Until at last we see her again.
She knew pain, and some darkness.
now only love and light will she ever behold.
We know where it is she has gone
And find comfort yet the sadness
Of those left behind remains until
At last we see her again.
I know what you would say..And it would seem like wisdom but for the warning in my Heart....
Nick: Galadlinderiel
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 2:14 PM PST
In Reply To: To all of you in Your loss
Message:
Very nice, and you reflect my sentiments perfectly.
Nick: Scout B
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 4:10 PM PST
In Reply To: To all of you in Your loss
Message:
Very nice, Overlithe28
Nick: Ginger
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 6:05 PM PST
In Reply To: To all of you in Your loss
Subject: How kind of you to share this
Message:
Thank you.
Nick: Sundance
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 1:36 PM PST
Subject: What can I possibly type here?
Message:
I've been lurking on these boards for over a year now. I never spoke to Widfara, but I read her posts, and almost knew her through them, even though she did not know me.
Recently I read a poem, and it came back to me now, so I'll post it now. It won't honour Widfara much, but it may help anyone else who is depressed on here, as I'm sure many people are today.
Don’t Quit
(Author unknown)
When things go wrong as they sometimes will,
When the road you’re trudging seems uphill,
When the funds are low, and the debts are high,
And you want to smile, but you have to sigh,
When care is pressing you down a bit,
Rest, if you must, but don’t you quit.
Life is strange with its twists and turns,
As everyone of us sometimes learns,
And many a failure turns about,
When he might have won had he stuck it out;
Don’t give up though the pace seems slow-
You may succeed with another blow.
Success is failure turned inside out-
The silver tint of the clouds of doubt.
And you never tell how close you are,
It may be near when it seems so far.
So stick to the fight when you’re hardest hit-
It’s when things seem worst that you must not quit.
Namarie Widfara - I wish I had known you.
Nick: Patty
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 1:39 PM PST
In Reply To: What can I possibly type here?
Subject: Thank you, Sundance...
Message:
In hopes this will discourage anyone else from ever taking this path, I appreciate this poem. Widfara was very special to all of us.
Nick: Curious
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 1:54 PM PST
In Reply To: What can I possibly type here?
Subject: In that same vein:
Message:
Everybody Hurts by R.E.M
When the day is long and the night, the night is yours alone,
when you're sure you've had enough of this life, well hang on.
Don't let yourself go, everybody cries and everybody hurts sometimes.
Sometimes everything is wrong. Now it's time to sing along.
When your day is night alone, (hold on, hold on)
if you feel like letting go, (hold on)
when you think you've had too much of this life, well hang on.
Everybody hurts. Take comfort in your friends.
Everybody hurts. Don't throw your hand. Oh, no. Don't throw your hand.
If you feel like you're alone, no, no, no, you are not alone
If you're on your own in this life, the days and nights are long,
when you think you've had too much of this life to hang on.
Well, everybody hurts sometimes,
everybody cries. And everybody hurts sometimes.
And everybody hurts sometimes. So, hold on, hold on.
Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on. (repeat & fade)
(Everybody hurts. You are not alone.)
Nick: Curious
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 2:02 PM PST
In Reply To: In that same vein:
Subject: And:
Message:
"Don't Give Up" by Peter Gabriel
in this proud land we grew up strong
we were wanted all along
I was taught to fight, taught to win
I never thought I could fail
no fight left or so it seems
I am a man whose dreams have all deserted
I've changed my face, I've changed my name
but no one wants you when you lose
don't give up
'cos you have friends
don't give up
you're not beaten yet
don't give up
I know you can make it good
though I saw it all around
never thought I could be affected
thought that we'd be the last to go
it is so strange the way things turn
drove the night toward my home
the place that I was born, on the lakeside
as daylight broke, I saw the earth
the trees had burned down to the ground
don't give up
you still have us
don't give up
we don't need much of anything
don't give up
'cause somewhere there's a place
where we belong
rest your head
you worry too much
it's going to be alright
when times get rough
you can fall back on us
don't give up
please don't give up
'got to walk out of here
I can't take anymore
going to stand on that bridge
keep my eyes down below
whatever may come
and whatever may go
that river's flowing
that river's flowing
moved on to another town
tried hard to settle down
for every job, so many men
so many men no-one needs
don't give up
'cause you have friends
don't give up
you're not the only one
don't give up
no reason to be ashamed
don't give up
you still have us
don't give up now
we're proud of who you are
don't give up
you know it's never been easy
don't give up
'cause I believe there's the a place
there's a place where we belong
Nick: PervyElfFancier
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 3:38 PM PST
In Reply To: What can I possibly type here?
Subject: I don't know what to say either
Message:
i haven't an idea of what to say either, for i joined a few weeks ago, so i've never seen any of her posts. I only know of how great a person she was through everyone else's words. Im not a very poetic person...i don't often read poems, so i don't have one to post.
so i guess al i can really say is, i hope she will rest in peace and may her soul now find eternal happiness
Nick: Earendil The Mariner
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 1:53 PM PST
Subject: My own tribute...
Message:
I haven't really known Widfara, but her impact on this community was visible every day, every hour... I felt sorry many times during this long day for never having any further contact with her, feeling at a loss for not having such great memories of our fellow TORn-sib. Not being a man of many words, but of a million images, I decided to pay tribute visualy...
I made a footer I'll use for a while, and it's up on my site (see link below), so if anyone else cares to express their feelings this way - you are very much welcome...
Rest in peace, Widfara...
Nick: sherlock
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 2:01 PM PST
In Reply To: My own tribute...
Message:
Good job, very nice!
Nick: Mirkwood Maiden
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 2:15 PM PST
In Reply To: My own tribute...
Message:
Very beautiful! She would have loved it!
Nick: Mrs. Boromir
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 2:21 PM PST
In Reply To: My own tribute...
Subject: Earendil
Message:
That is so beautifully done. Would you mind if others used the footer also?
Nick: Gaelsong
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 3:17 PM PST
In Reply To: My own tribute...
Subject: Oh wow
Message:
Now I am going to cry. You are so sweet. I only hope that now she knows how we all feel.
Nick: Nimfalma Took
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 3:41 PM PST
In Reply To: My own tribute...
Message:
Excellent and fitting, thank you
Nick: Scout B
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 4:09 PM PST
In Reply To: My own tribute...
Message:
I like it.
Nick: Rasputin the Evil Balrog
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 6:10 PM PST
In Reply To: My own tribute...
Subject: Lovely and well done!
Message:
Thank you for sharing this with us!
Nick: grammaboodawg
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 7:08 PM PST
In Reply To: My own tribute...
Message:
That's good Earendil.
Nick: Ginger
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 7:13 PM PST
In Reply To: My own tribute...
Message:
Very nice EtM
Nick: Galadlinderiel
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 2:03 PM PST
Subject: Part of a song from Enuff Z'Nuff
Message:
Don't know if y'all have ever heard this song, but one chorus:
"I know that what goes up comes down.
I didn't know you hit the ground.
Why'd you have to give it up?
You were just a little girl.
I'll never look into your blue eyes.
Fly high, Michelle."
Applicable to Widfara - I'm sure she's flying high with the other angels. I'll miss her though I didn't know her well. I loved her posts.
Nick: Tauriel
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 2:16 PM PST
In Reply To: Part of a song from Enuff Z'Nuff
Subject: This bit of a song reminded me of her
Message:
It's part of a song by suede, from their new album (or rather from some of their new albums, it's a bonus track and not on all of them, but anyway)
"Between us is oceans
There's life in slowmotion
Quietly we drift away
Quietly we fade to grey"
The song is really a love song and as a whole not applicable, but this part of it made me think of Wíd because of some things: The words of quietly drifting away because I hope and believe that however sad it is that she has gone away, she has found peace now. And secondly the mentioning of oceans that makes me think of Valinor and the straight way there which is such a beautiful image of peace and healing. And finally, "life in slowmotion" because I think we all feel stunned and shocked by this.
But perhaps I'm over-explaining this. I'm good at that. So I'll stop here at least.