Nick: miss_mithril
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 8:46 PM PST
Subject: this one is hard...
Message:
...this feeling is not soft. my eyes shout, red-rimmed again, the second time in a week...
death does not get easier, just familiar.
my strength is there, but d***, it's ebbing...
but...maybe...tomorrow i will feel mellow, small and soft...yielding to a tranquil spot...
maybe tommorow i can forgive my god.
now i am given over to wrath.
wherefore this test, o god?
i am not at rest...
a friend from my h.s. lost her firefighter brother on 9/11. i just found out...sat. eve... through the alumni news. a piece of paper, thin and slick...impersonal, yet informative.
now this... a woman whose face shone like the moon last night over the high oaks in my backyard...she's gone...bytes and bits...people flung over miles who i care about more than my own family quite frankly...no, i reel. i am sorry...it is not you, my friends.
i am not comforted...
i have a spear in my throat.
Nick: Pukel-man
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 8:53 PM PST
In Reply To: this one is hard...
Subject: There is no comfort . . .
Message:
. . . but a smile is still a smile . . . :-)
Nick: miss_mithril
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 9:21 PM PST
In Reply To: There is no comfort . . .
Subject: i agree...just
Message:
...it's really really important at all times to be truthful. i never saw wid's face until today, and i am just in a fell mood now. and yes, 'fell' says it. she was simply too beautiful to be taken from this place. the beauty was inner, shone through as clearly as galadriel's phial in the light. in truth, i have a lot of anger in my heart right now...anger that a gentle and beautiful soul should be so troubled by anything. that anything should hurt her so. it's that spirit in me that wants to protect beyond anything what is precious...and knows she can't. i've been down this road too many times, and i know i can't be anybody's saviour. and it's not about that. it's in the smaller moments that life is really lived. still, as difficult as it is to express this kind of harshness of my heart, it is real. i thought twice, but posted it anyway. i am sorry if i offended anyone. but it is deeply felt. it is my keening. i am not angry with her at all. i am angry for her. and yes, i demand in an injured way something from god. i've been there myself. i mourn her. and right now, it hurts. soon, it won't be as sharp. because i believe many things move the world. and i always forgive god and myself and my anger and my temerity at being unhappy about such facts of life. but now, it simply...cuts.
but believe me...i accept the smile gratefully...and it comes back to you...
Nick: Vairë the Weaver
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 4:47 AM PST
In Reply To: i agree...just
Message:
Thanks for your honesty
Nick: Eärwen Swan Maiden Of Alqualondë
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 10:40 PM PST
Subject: Oh my....
Message:
What heartbreaking news this is. Although I am somewhat new, Widfara always struck as a kind and intelligent lady. I truly wish I could have known her better. This moment reminds me somehwhat of the day I got the call that my very best freinds father, the man who was like a second father to me, had died in a car accident. I was only 12 at the time, but the memory is crystal clear. The first thing I wrote upon hearing the news was a very short poem which came suddenly and fully formed into my head.
Life is such a fragile thing
It braves the storm on paper wings
And when it crashes no one cares
Except when that life might be theirs
The poem was not meant to be negative, but to be a reminder that the death of someone we care about can often shake us deeply, and should serve as a reminder of the preciousness of life. We should all cherish each other, for we all contain beauty and value as human beings. This is something we need to remind each other of constantly. We deserve to hear it from others. Saying it to someone else will do you just as much good as it will do them.
Nick: Eärwen Swan Maiden Of Alqualondë
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 10:54 PM PST
In Reply To: Oh my....
Subject: As a followup to my last post...
Message:
I would just like to say that all of YOU contain value and beauty as huamn beings. This I can say with confidence, whether I know you or not, and judging from what I have read and seen here today, you all contain more than the average share of beauty. You are all wonderful people, I cannot emphasize this enough. Even through the small connection of this board you can know that there are many out there who care for you. I hope you can carry this bit of truth with you wherever you go to brighten your life a little when it needs some brightening.
Nick: Wandlimb
Date/Time: Tue, 10/22/2002 at 11:35 PM PST
In Reply To: As a followup to my last post...
Subject: Thanks Earwen
Message:
I am amazed and awed by the amount of love and caring shown by the posters on this board in the past few hours. In my small part of the world it is now a bright, sunny new day. Reading all the tributes to Wid and messages of comfort posted overnight makes me both cry and smile.
Nick: River-Woman
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 12:45 AM PST
Subject: It is morning, a scant eight hours since I first heard ...
Message:
and in the cold light of day, I am still unsettled.
I want to at least try to explain why I feel so rotten about Wid's untimely passing. It has nothing to do with an out-pouring of public grief - but it has very much to do with grief.
I am one of the 'older' posters on TORn and I have always felt priviledged to have found this wonderful site and to be part of the 'family.'
I am old enough to be mum to most of you, and even grandma to some of you. And that is why it hurts. When you get to my age, the deaths you hear about and know of, are usually older members of your family, sometimes your contempararies. But as a parent, the hardest thing to bear is when a young life is extinguished.
We have become numb to death in this modern world. Images flood our senses from media of all kinds. We willingly go to the cinema and watch films were the body count is sometimes ridiculous. Television presents images of violence and death that we watch while eating out supper. We do this because we know it is acting. The bullets, knives, explosions are not real and the actors get up and walk off the set after the scene has finished.
Real life isn't like this.
And it is only when something like this happens, that we are jolted out of our complacency. The real sadness of Wid's passing is that she felt she was alone, with no-one to turn to for help. Now I'm not suggesting that we suddenly become counselors - and we are certainly not mind readers; but I am sure that if only once, Wid had mentioned how depressed she felt or how the her world was unbearable, we would have responded to that cry.
We may not have been able to do anything; we did not know her circumstances, but we could have said something that may have given her hope; something that may have gotten her to talk to her family or G.P. Or maybe, at the very least, made her laugh, and sometimes that's just enough to enable a person to get through the next hours of life.
For me, life doesn't end with death. I see live as a circle or hoop. We are born, die and are reborn again at some point. I believe we have all lived many lives and will continue living many lives until we find a life when all are expectations are fulfilled; when we reach our full human potential. So I know that Wid will come back, and I hope that next time, things will be better for her.
I have also given a lot of thought as to why she didn't mention how she felt. Did she think that Admin would deem it inappropriate? Did she think that no-one would care or that she would be laughed off the board? I hope not. I would hope that we are far more sensitive than that.
My message therefore, to all of you, especially you youngsters, is to share. We may not have any of the answers, but at least you will know you are not alone.
I would hate for my children to feel isolated and desperate to the point of suicide. Therefore, I certainly wouldn't want any of my TORn family to feel the same.
God Speed you to the light, Wid. I will miss you.
Nick: Ataahua
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 12:49 AM PST
In Reply To: It is morning, a scant eight hours since I first heard ...
Subject: Further to your thoughts,
Message:
it doesn't matter *who* you talk to - someone online, someone on the phone, a member or your family, or a friend. If you're struggling, talk to *someone*.
Working through something on your own is the hardest thing to do. Working through it with someone else is by far the better path.
Nick: Celede
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 1:15 AM PST
In Reply To: It is morning, a scant eight hours since I first heard ...
Subject: Hi Riverwoman...
Message:
I know what you mean about kids. Having kids makes you so much more aware of the fact that death impacts on more than just yourself..at my friends' funeral (suicide)all those years ago, the thing that struck me the most was the utter shock and sense of abandonment experienced by his parents. They were Malaysian Chinese, they had absolutely no idea how depressed he was and they were so, so sad. It was 20 years ago and I remember the expression on their faces like yesterday.
Before I had kids I used to watch those starving African kids with some emotional detachment. I got home from hospital with number 1 and saw those poor little starving kids on TV and suddenly understood how their parents felt.
I have a different life after death philosophy to you, but I really hope and pray Widf has found the peace she needed.
Nick: Nessimë
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 1:28 AM PST
In Reply To: It is morning, a scant eight hours since I first heard ...
Subject: From the other side of the fence...
Message:
I dislike sharing this as it may render me vulnerable to criticism and judgement, but today I have read a lot of comments to the extent of 'why didn't she say something?' and I feel that I must now say something. Ultimately it is up to the person themselves to come to grips with themselves before they can speak out. In my last attempt it was the sight of myself in the mirror, and the fact I was shocked back into reality because I didn't recognise the person staring back at me. The girl in the mirror frightened me beyond words can express.
Moriel expressed things very well in a post earlier today which I have linked to at the bottom, but I would like to say that taking your own life can often be something that you yourself do not understand. I did not comprehend what I was doing until I was part-way through a packet of pills, another time it was someone laughing outside and the smell of the bleach I was about to drink. It's a desperate time and I'm having trouble finding the right words to explain.
Depression is something that controls your mind and thoughts, and it is entirely up to you to make the first move out of it. Unless you have attempted suicide or experienced serious depression, I am unsure if you can understand the utter grief and pain that you go through before you make a decision, and often you are unaware of the decision until something jolts you back to reality. I know the feelings of despair in everyday life are usually hidden beneath a jocular and vivacious nature, and the feeling that you are caught in a vicious cycle that is difficult to break.
There are other emotions tied to depression that make it difficult to speak out, so please understand that speaking out is not always going to happen. Sometimes a suicide attempt is a cry for help, sometimes it is a deliberately final act - I have done a lot of research into suicide to assist myself in understanding how I got to rock bottom. Please realise that something like this is usually entirely unexpected, and there is generally not much you can do except be the best friend you can to everyone around you. Sometimes on reflection you may see warning signs, but truly there is little you can do unless the person spells it out for you.
I was unfortunate to be on medication that had serious side-effects including depression, and there have indeed been documented accounts of suicides by people on that medication. I am fortunate in that I am off that medication now and am happier with who I am. Although it is a period of my life of which I prefer not to think about, I am glad I have experience it - it makes appreciating the good times so much easier upon reflection.
Although I have not managed to convey my thoughts to my satisfaction, I have said enough on the topic I believe. Take care. Goodnight and God bless.
Nick: Smokering
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 2:12 AM PST
In Reply To: It is morning, a scant eight hours since I first heard ...
Subject: I've just heard.
Message:
All I know, all I can feel and think, is that I loved her. And she made me feel so special! She wrote to me... I've just had a new footer put on and I thought, about fifteen minutes ago, how fun it would be if she liked it, because she loved my last one and I've always loved her footers. And now she'll nev--not that it matters. I cant think what to write. I have so many messages from her in my inbox. I'm sorry. I should be encouraging everyone the way she would have been. This is a terrible thing. I've known depression, I still do. I never dreamed it would be Widfara! Often it's the funniest people, maybe, who are saddest, I've known a few others, but nothing just like this. Widfara, I will miss you so much! These boards will never be the same again without you.
Love you,
Smokering.
Nick: Annael
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 6:52 AM PST
In Reply To: It is morning, a scant eight hours since I first heard ...
Subject: hey RW
Message:
I am with you. I'm also one of the older folks here. The advantage of that is that I've been through some really bad times and I know that one CAN make it through and there are rewards for doing so - wonderful rewards. It breaks my heart when a young person facing their first hard time doesn't make it through to learn that.
I also believe we are reborn. And that we come into each life for a purpose. Sometimes it's not an easy one.
Nick: maegwen
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 7:15 AM PST
In Reply To: It is morning, a scant eight hours since I first heard ...
Message:
thank you, river woman... *hugs*
Nick: Lacrimae Rerum
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 7:29 AM PST
In Reply To: It is morning, a scant eight hours since I first heard ...
Subject: I can't think of what to say,
Message:
to this news. To post seems pointless and yet necessary.
I am shocked that this has happened and i am shocked by how moved I am by it. What an awful way to discover someone is so much more than just seven letters on a computer screen to me.
I am so sorry that she is gone.
Nick: Greenwood Hobbit
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 7:56 AM PST
In Reply To: It is morning, a scant eight hours since I first heard ...
Subject: From another mum...
Message:
it hit me hard too, though I'd had little to do with her. I just read the obituary - she was younger than me. I struggle to understand what brings a person to that point; though my own mother has suffered from depression for years, she's never been suicidal. Not so as you'd know, anyway... perhaps that's the point. If you don't know, you can't help, then you feel extra helpless when something like this happens. I hope her spirit lives 'on the open wold in times of peace' as her board name suggests, and she sees that she is missed.
Nick: Vardamir
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 1:13 AM PST
Subject: A poem for Widfara.
Message:
"Gentle spirit, please to come,
My life on earth is almost done.
Appear before my closing eye,
Tell me again I cannot die.
Here is my hand, please hold it fast,
Then with courage I will pass
Across that bridge that's built with love,
Into the summer land above."
(Let's just say that this poem was by 'Ramanov'.)
I remember Widfara's presence quite clearly, and such a soul will sorely be missed.
Nick: Olorin of the West
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 4:06 AM PST
In Reply To: A poem for Widfara.
Message:
Thank you.
Nick: Smokering
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 4:48 AM PST
In Reply To: A poem for Widfara.
Message:
Thank you, that's really beautiful.
Nick: StefBaggins
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 7:12 AM PST
In Reply To: A poem for Widfara.
Message:
Thanks, that's really a great tribute.
Nick: Lostcause
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 2:39 AM PST
Subject: Just something I want to say
Message:
I wasn't sure to post this or not because main is already moving very fast and this isn't a beautifull poem dedicated to Widfara or an insight on peoples internal pain and sorrow. But I decided to anyway. So get ready for a rant
When I look at TORN today as opposed to TORN 3 days ago, the one thing that has changed for me is that it has been exposed to Real Life in it's most unfortunate form. TORN is no longer an 'unspoiled' place of joy dedicated to Tolkien.
Widfaras' departing have made a lot of other TORNsibs tell their story of depression and loss, and all of them makes me draw a deep breath as I wonder at your ability to open up to the rest of us. Before the tragic event this place was a place of friends that called themselves a family, now it feels more like a family calling themselves friends. And I love TORN so much more for it.
I have never been good at expressing myself in those ways, both orally and litterally. I tend to shrug such things off with a smile or a bad joke, feeling it easier to cope with. I do believe that talking about your problems is a good way to 'medicate' yourself. Maybe that is true and maybe it is not.
I have not yet been so down that suicide have been an option, but a good friend of mine did a while back. He was always a 'joyfull' guy. Not meaning that he absolutely had to make a joke out of everything, but he always seemed to have a positive perspective on all things no matter how depressing they might seem and he was good at making me meet the world with a smile instead of a frown. That is why his sudden suicide took me by utter surprise and chock.
The fact is in some way I envy that you are capable of exposing your inner self in such a way. I hope to be able to cross that border someday.
Until then, all I can say is:
I can say things and behave like I very rarely do with my RL friends. I thank you deeply for giving me that option.
A toast to Widfara and TORN in general
And I'll stop my rant now :-)
Nick: Tauriel
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 3:44 AM PST
In Reply To: Just something I want to say
Subject: I think that's very well said
Message:
And it is great that you try to express what you feel even if you don't think you're so good at it. I can share things on TORn that I don't share with RL friends as well. Luckily I have never thought of suicide, and I haven't known anyone else than Wídfara who took their own life. I know a person who has had a depression though, and though I was a child and didn't understand it much, I remember how terrible he felt, and that's something I wish nobody ever had to go through. I greatly admire people's openness here as well. I find it easier to be open in writing than in talking, but still not that much. I'm better at it now than earlier, though, and that's a development I hope will continue.
Nick: greenleafphf
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 6:16 AM PST
In Reply To: Just something I want to say
Subject: thank you Lostcause
Message:
The words in that poem hit home with me. I really appreciate them. This has not been an easy year for me, the failure of a marriage never is, and TORn has been and will continue to be a wonderful little haven where "Frodo Lives!". The last couple of weeks have been particularly tough for various reasons and those words just reminded me that no matter how dark the storm the sun will rise again and hopefully there will be a rainbow.
Nick: Mirkwood Maiden
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 7:23 AM PST
In Reply To: Just something I want to say
Subject: Thank you Lostcause, your words hold very true.
Message:
And I love what you said...
"Before the tragic event this place was a place of friends that called themselves a family, now it feels more like a family calling themselves friends. And I love TORN so much more for it."
I know for a fact that Widfara cherished her TORn Family. I'm proud of her efforts to bring people closer through the SAST quizzes and her general kind and fun-loving attitude!
I take great comfort in knowing that 'Auntie Wid' is certainly with the Angels and she is watching all of us and sending her love.
Blessed be,
MM
Nick: miss_mithril
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 7:34 AM PST
In Reply To: Just something I want to say
Subject: I think you said it just fine... :)
Message:
It's about being moved to 'speak,' and you've more than done that here...
i love that song, btw.
Nick: Greenwood Hobbit
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 8:03 AM PST
In Reply To: Just something I want to say
Subject: Perhaps this could be Widfara's legacy to TORn -
Message:
'Before the tragic event this place was a place of friends that called themselves a family, now it feels more like a family calling themselves friends,' writes Lostcause.
Out of this darkness, then, has come something strong and positive.
We know we can share here. THat is a valuable gift. Perhaps it might help others, at some point, with nowhere else to make their feelings known.
Nick: jordan_the_discursive
In Reply To: Just something I want to say
Subject: My feelings exactly! Thank you!
Message:
I love the line about how we're a family that calls ourselves friends. I'm sure in a few weeks we'll all be back arguing and cutting up amongst ourselves, but this feeling of unity that has come out of this sorry has been wonderful. And I thank you so very much for your lovely, beautiful expression of your heartfelt emotions!
Nick: elf_wannabee
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 7:25 AM PST
Subject: Widfara's official obituary from the Memphis Commercial Appeal website--RIP Ma'am--thanks for all you did for us fellow TORNsibs! "While my guitar gently weeps"
Message:
ROBIN ADONA MARVEL, 45, of Memphis, graphic designer for Shades of Gray, died Monday in Memphis. Services will be at 4 p.m. Thursday at First Unitarian Church of the River. Canale Funeral Directors has charge. She leaves her parents, Walter T. and Patricia R. Marvel of Trumann, Ark., and a sister, Judy Stanis Marvel of Georgetown, Ind. The family requests that memorials be sent to Monastery of St. Clare or PETA in Norfolk, Va.
Nick: Celandine Brandybuck
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 7:29 AM PST
In Reply To: Widfara's official obituary from the Memphis Commercial Appeal website--RIP Ma'am--thanks for all you did for us fellow TORNsibs! "While my guitar gently weeps"
Message:
Thanks, ew.
Nick: greenleafphf
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 7:37 AM PST
In Reply To: Widfara's official obituary from the Memphis Commercial Appeal website--RIP Ma'am--thanks for all you did for us fellow TORNsibs! "While my guitar gently weeps"
Message:
thanks elf_wannabee
Nick: Mirkwood Maiden
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 7:48 AM PST
In Reply To: Widfara's official obituary from the Memphis Commercial Appeal website--RIP Ma'am--thanks for all you did for us fellow TORNsibs! "While my guitar gently weeps"
Message:
I appreciate your posting this. Thank you.
http://users.cg.yu/silmaril/widfara_tribute.jpg
Nick: NZ Strider
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 8:43 AM PST
In Reply To: Widfara's official obituary from the Memphis Commercial Appeal website--RIP Ma'am--thanks for all you did for us fellow TORNsibs! "While my guitar gently weeps"
Message:
Thanks for this.
Nick: Nimfalma Took
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 10:49 AM PST
Message:
In Reply To: Widfara's official obituary from the Memphis Commercial Appeal website--RIP Ma'am--thanks for all you did for us fellow TORNsibs! "While my guitar gently weeps"
Message:
Thanks, elf-wannabe
Nick: elf_wannabee
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 8:38 AM PST
Message:
Tomorrow at 1600 central daylight time (usa) I will be observing the Standing Silence (facing west while standing silent) im memory of Widfara and invite all my fellow TORNsibs to do the same! Humbly submitted for your consideration!
Nick: Mellaithien
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 8:50 AM PST
Message:
In Reply To: Tomorrow at 1600 central daylight time (usa) I will be observing the Standing Silence (facing west while standing silent) im memory of Widfara and invite all my fellow TORNsibs to do the same! Humbly submitted for your consideration! (No Text)
Subject: What time would it be in Europe?
Message:
I'm sorry, I don't know "central daylight time (usa)" timezone =/ Is it -0600?
Would that make it 1 am here in +0200 timezone (+0300 because of the daylight saving-thing)
1600 + 6 + 3 hours?
Am I correct? Please, someone?
Mell
Nick: jordan_the_discursive
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 9:07 AM PST
In Reply To: Tomorrow at 1600 central daylight time (usa) I will be observing the Standing Silence (facing west while standing silent) im memory of Widfara and invite all my fellow TORNsibs to do the same! Humbly submitted for your consideration! (No Text)
Message:
I shall stand with you.
Nick: Eressëa
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 9:18 AM PST
In Reply To: Tomorrow at 1600 central daylight time (usa) I will be observing the Standing Silence (facing west while standing silent) im memory of Widfara and invite all my fellow TORNsibs to do the same! Humbly submitted for your consideration! (No Text)
Message:
I will join you at 10pm, as I live in Europe. *works out which way west is*
Nick: Frodosgurl
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 9:32 AM PST
In Reply To: Tomorrow at 1600 central daylight time (usa) I will be observing the Standing Silence (facing west while standing silent) im memory of Widfara and invite all my fellow TORNsibs to do the same! Humbly submitted for your consideration! (No Text)
Subject: im confused.
Message:
whats wrong with Widfara?
Nick: cabbage'n'taters
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 10:08 AM PST
In Reply To: Tomorrow at 1600 central daylight time (usa) I will be observing the Standing Silence (facing west while standing silent) im memory of Widfara and invite all my fellow TORNsibs to do the same! Humbly submitted for your consideration! (No Text)
Message:
I will join you.
Nick: River-Woman
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 10:16 AM PST
In Reply To: Tomorrow at 1600 central daylight time (usa) I will be observing the Standing Silence (facing west while standing silent) im memory of Widfara and invite all my fellow TORNsibs to do the same! Humbly submitted for your consideration! (No Text)
Message:
It will be 9pm GMT in London. I will join with you.
Nick: Tauriel
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 10:19 AM PST
In Reply To: Tomorrow at 1600 central daylight time (usa) I will be observing the Standing Silence (facing west while standing silent) im memory of Widfara and invite all my fellow TORNsibs to do the same! Humbly submitted for your consideration! (No Text)
Subject: I'll join you
Message:
It's a beautiful idea.
Nick: Elwen
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 10:21 AM PST
In Reply To: Tomorrow at 1600 central daylight time (usa) I will be observing the Standing Silence (facing west while standing silent) im memory of Widfara and invite all my fellow TORNsibs to do the same! Humbly submitted for your consideration! (No Text)
Message:
I'll stand with you.
Nick: greenleafphf
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 10:38 AM PST
In Reply To: Tomorrow at 1600 central daylight time (usa) I will be observing the Standing Silence (facing west while standing silent) im memory of Widfara and invite all my fellow TORNsibs to do the same! Humbly submitted for your consideration! (No Text)
Message:
I'll be there.
Nick: grammaboodawg
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 11:12 AM PST
In Reply To: Tomorrow at 1600 central daylight time (usa) I will be observing the Standing Silence (facing west while standing silent) im memory of Widfara and invite all my fellow TORNsibs to do the same! Humbly submitted for your consideration! (No Text)
Message:
I'll be there, too.
Nick: Roheryn
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 11:38 AM PST
In Reply To: Tomorrow at 1600 central daylight time (usa) I will be observing the Standing Silence (facing west while standing silent) im memory of Widfara and invite all my fellow TORNsibs to do the same! Humbly submitted for your consideration! (No Text)
Message:
I will join you, though I do not know the way.
Nick: Gaelsong
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 12:00 PM PST
In Reply To: Tomorrow at 1600 central daylight time (usa) I will be observing the Standing Silence (facing west while standing silent) im memory of Widfara and invite all my fellow TORNsibs to do the same! Humbly submitted for your consideration! (No Text)
Subject: That is a wonderful idea
Message:
I tried to reply to your post yesterday but couldn't. This is something we can all do together in real time and I'll be there with the rest of you. Thank you EW.
Nick: Aunt Dora Baggins
Date/Time: Wed, 10/23/2002 at 12:38 PM PST
In Reply To: Tomorrow at 1600 central daylight time (usa) I will be observing the Standing Silence (facing west while standing silent) im memory of Widfara and invite all my fellow TORNsibs to do the same! Humbly submitted for your consideration! (No Text)
Subject: I'll be with you in spirit.
Message:
I'll be in a meeting, but at least I can close my eyes and stand with you in spirit in the quiet dark.
Blessings on you, Widfara, and a peaceful voyage home.